[Messy]

Since summer, my laptop plays some lagg tricks on me when I play games. Plus, screen sometimes fails and then refreshes... I can't live with that laptop anymore. I want a strong, gaming PC.

My laptop: Acer Aspire 7720
Age: 2 and a half years old.
Lags like hell.
Screen fails.
FPS Lagg.
Lagg.
Some people told me to upgrade my laptop.
But upgrading costs more than a new PC (in my situation...).
Now, to my question:

Is it worth to buy a new PC instead of laptop?
Why?
And what do you suggest to me?
What PC?
My internet is wireless. Will that be a problem if I buy a PC instead of laptop?
Upgrade or not?
What should I do?

Thanks.

This post has been edited by Messy: 14 January 2011 - 19:32

[CarPileUp]

Is it worth to buy a new PC instead of laptop?
When you are a gamer. Yes.

Why?
Gaming Laptops are fucking expensive, they are getting hot and loud. Upgrading parts of a laptop is nearly (99%) impossible.

What PC?
Selfmade. Do NOT try to buy overpriced OEM crapshit like Acer, Medion, Dell etc. Just tell us your budget + website where you want to buy your parts. Building a PC is easy as hell and saves you alot of money.

My internet is wireless. Will that be a problem if I buy a PC instead of laptop?
No. You just have to buy a wireless stick. They are not expensive.

Upgrade or not?
When you are not proud with your laptop then yes.

What should I do?
Answered already

This post has been edited by CarPileUp: 14 January 2011 - 19:49

[Messy]

I do have already a stick, but wont internet be slower?

I dunno yet a website. Suggest me.
My budget is 800 euros, but I won't spend them all. I want something at a good price but strong and fast.

This post has been edited by Messy: 14 January 2011 - 19:49

[Mathematic]

For 500 bucks you can have a very decent computer + it will slow down your PC, since it has to make another stop at the stick (that's sound logic, not sure if it's true though).

[CarPileUp]

Messy, on 14 January 2011 - 19:49, said:

I do have already a stick, but wont internet be slower?

No.

CPU: AMD Phenom II 955 @ 3,2 ghz (Under 150€)
GPU: HD6870 (200€) or Gigabyte GTX460 (about 170€)
Mainboard: Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 (But others are possible too) ~83€
RAM: 4GB DDR3 (RAM prices are going down in the last time) You'll get good one for under 60€
(Important: 2 x 2GB DDR3 for dual channel support)
Case: Your own taste. (Under 50€)
HDD: Samsung SpinPoint F4 1TB (about 60€)
DVD-Drive: LG something (under 30€)
Monitor: Your own taste. Minimum 22" (1920x1080) for a decent gaming quality (Imo)

The power supply is the most important part imo. Only buy brand PSUs like, Enermax, BeQuiet, Corsair, Tagan, Antec, Coolermaster. A broken non-brand PSU would fuck up your whole system (CPU, GPU, Mainboard...) because they are poorly manufactured and don't have securityfunctions like overvoltage, undervoltage, short-circuit protection etc.

Also, wattage is NOT the only thing which is important for a PSU. 500Watt is more than enough for your system for example. Your PSU should also has more than 40A (Ampere) on the 12V+ rails. Just get a brand PSU, which I have listed above then youre on the safe side. (You can also post when you find one in internet here, and I'll tell you if its ok or not.)

I don't know how expensive PC-Hardware in Greece is. The prices which I have posted are german prices.

This post has been edited by CarPileUp: 14 January 2011 - 20:17
Reason for edit: Nice typo.

[Damien]

Lets see, i think this is the best you can do with the money:

Cpu: amd phenom 2 x6 1055t @2.8 ghz [ turbo mode when less cores are used than 6] (about €150,-), you could get an intel but for gaming amd has best value.
Ram: 2x 2gb ddr3 1333 mhz cl9 (€50,- kit)
Graphics: HD6850 (€150) i got bad experience with nvidia.
Motherboard: asrock m3n78d (€50,-), if this mb isnt in your country, just look at the specs and see if the processor is supported.
Case: take one that supports atx, rest is your choice. (around €45)
Hdd: seagate barracuda 1tb (€50)
Power supply: cooler master 500 watt or more. ( €55)
Dvd-drive: any brand will do (€30)
Monitor: samsung syncmaster 22 inch like the P2270H(€150)
Mouse: logitech mx518(€30)
Keyboard: Buy some cheap one (€10)
Headset: creative fatality headset (€30)
Total: €800,-

I took the prices from holland so to be honest it could be more expensive in greece. :S

This post has been edited by Damien: 14 January 2011 - 23:44

[TheGreenGrasshopper]

warning, using a usb internet stick will decrease your internet connection I know because I see a stick and get around 60ping and my brother has a networkcard and gets 25ping. Depends on the product though.

[Damien]

Most motherboards have onboard lan that has a decent speed, you could use that. For gaming i would definately NOT use wireless. (much lower ping)

[Nobana]

CarPileUp's set is good. Exept the resolution for a 22" is 1680x1050.


Next time you make a topic like this, you might want to rephrase the title and put it in the right section(Computers, consoles and other hardware).

[CarPileUp]

Nobana, on 15 January 2011 - 00:13, said:

CarPileUp's set is good. Exept the resolution for a 22" is 1680x1050.

No. There are also 22" monitors which support 1920x1080

@Damien. 4 Cores are way enough for gaming. Six cores are good when you do much video rendering/editing. But you don't see a difference in games. They are even sometimes slower than the X4.

[Damien]

@carpileup: the turbomode compensates for it. Single core applications will work better on the six core, because it automatically OC the cores that are used. Plus your more future proof even though you pay the same price.

[Messy]

Is it really easy to make a self-made PC?

[Damien]

Yes, you just have to watch out for ESD(elektro static discharge). You just need a wristband that you attach to your case. Plus dont touch the pins on the memory, cpu and gpu. Thats all really, rest is pretty straightforward.

[Nobana]

Damien, on 15 January 2011 - 10:39, said:

You just need a wristband that you attach to your case.

What? No you dont.

[oDi_W]

Nobana, on 15 January 2011 - 10:42, said:

Damien, on 15 January 2011 - 10:39, said:

You just need a wristband that you attach to your case.

What? No you dont.

ESD gloves will do fine to.

[Nobana]

oDi.WankenoDi, on 15 January 2011 - 12:35, said:

Nobana, on 15 January 2011 - 10:42, said:

Damien, on 15 January 2011 - 10:39, said:

You just need a wristband that you attach to your case.

What? No you dont.

ESD gloves will do fine to.

Are we talking about how they built the PC's in the store, or how you build it yourself?

Ive never heard of any ESD wristbands/gloves, and never seen anyone use them. Therefore, not necessary(necessary = wouldnt work without it).

[Clavus]

Messy, on 15 January 2011 - 09:41, said:

Is it really easy to make a self-made PC?

All you need to know: http://techreport.com/articles.x/13671

If you give an actual budget, and a link to online retailers you can buy parts from, we can make you a good proposal on what to buy.

Also wireless is fine for gaming as long as it works.

[Damien]

@nobana your joking right? Learn to build a pc. Esd could blow up your hardware thats why you need to be attached to a conductive source( wristband and special gloves do that).
@clavus wireless always has losses so if its Possible to use wired use that. If its not possible than you should use wireless.

[TheGreenGrasshopper]

It'll work but trust me, you'll notice whose internet is faster xD

[CyriusG]

You will only notice a different if you have a fast connection and not just 10mbit but i've never used a ESD wristband, good old radiators for me.