[rogue]

TheGreenGrasshopper, on 15 January 2010 - 20:42, said:

Who would want to play Engie these days, everything is good against it.
i don't actually care about it (maybe because I don't play pl) because there was always some donator with fast uber charge and sometimes 2 who'd just launch it right after each other. You get used to that.

that where only 5 guys i remember including me. but they never played all together in one team and not even played all every time medic. now you got a lot of guys that all want the fast uber. because that's the big advantage. so now you got more guys with fast ubers and the guys that donated before for there fast ubers in the old system don't even playing any more because this is happened and because there was a epic class update (soldier/demo that fucked up the game a little bit). i would like to see the guys with non fast ubers. then you can see again who are the best medics. i got the fast uber ass well but i dont care if i loose it i played medic before the donater stuff but i had still a good score so. and that would be a good change for the pl server.

i play in the cp server ass well but in the cp server it isn't so stacked. but i play now 2/3 years in the pl server and dont want to leave the server. but if this still going on i will make a change to the cp/ctf server and or the koth server (but there are not many good players in koth so that's boring)

''charge and sometimes 2 who'd just launch it right after each other. You get used to that.''

not every minute i believe. thats just the problem in pl

and engie yeah its fucked up with the new class update. they got too much advantage if they shoot pipebombs at your sentry or rockets. i think they got more damage now. check i dont think that its true. never saw a demo destroying a sentry with 2 epic pipebombs before. its just annoying to play engie right now.

[Lemon!]

Well, for some fixes like that Superiour Medic upgrade, the amount of "Extra" Would be less.

If you get a ubercharge in 30 seconds, make it 40-45 seconds.

[BlueYoshi97]

Lemon!, on 15 January 2010 - 21:22, said:

Well, for some fixes like that Superiour Medic upgrade, the amount of "Extra" Would be less.

If you get a ubercharge in 30 seconds, make it 40-45 seconds.

And/or disable automatic refill.

[Clavus]

It turned somewhat worse for the turtling engie, but the offensive engie is still fun to play. Just never build more than a level 1 sentry on the biggest hotspots and lure people in it, while attacking them with your shotgun at the same time. Works wonders.

On another note, I remember the word 'stacking' only to be used when one team actually had more players than the other. Now it's just friends who join one team, and thus have an advantage in teamwork, nothing more. But that's the whole point of the game, the team with the most teamwork wins.

[rogue]

Clavus, on 15 January 2010 - 23:53, said:

It turned somewhat worse for the turtling engie, but the offensive engie is still fun to play. Just never build more than a level 1 sentry on the biggest hotspots and lure people in it, while attacking them with your shotgun at the same time. Works wonders.

On another note, I remember the word 'stacking' only to be used when one team actually had more players than the other. Now it's just friends who join one team, and thus have an advantage in teamwork, nothing more. But that's the whole point of the game, the team with the most teamwork wins.

If you think that giving all the fast-ubers on a good player and always joining the winnig team is teamwork i dont get it. and i always talking against the players what they need to do but thats just not a go because that 6 guys just always come with an uber just hiding around a corner or the medic is camping at spawn for a uber;-/. and i dont think this is teamwork. they dont even need teamwork for so much fast ubers;-/.

[Wally]

good teamplay and stacked teams is a big difference. rogue is right that the same players always look which team seems to be better and join it... and if it still loses they go spectator and join the other, thats just lame... i always change the team if its stacked and boring. before the shop opened i could manage to make a loosing team even win, but now this seems impossible. most people don't want a good game, they just want to make lots of points to think they are good players... but the real good players actually don't play anymore on the server because of this. i miss the I.guys and other good and fair players. please think about that, because the server is getting boring for good player who don't use the shop advantages in this unfair way many people now do.

edit: and its not teamplay when a heavy has his personal super-charger which only heals him and gives him the uebers... this is EGOPLAY

This post has been edited by Wally: 16 January 2010 - 19:23

[rogue]

Wally, on 16 January 2010 - 19:14, said:

i miss the I.guys and other good and fair players. please think about that, because the server is getting boring for good player who don't use the shop advantages in this unfair way many people now do.

yeah i see a lot of guys just leaving this server for that and there are more guys that want to leave it. and that are all guys that play for 2 years now in the server and know how to play it right.

[Ywa]

So uh... what do you recommend to get a good income to pay our servers Wally?

[Wally]

read careful, the shop is ok. but the super-charger is the main reason for this problem. just take this item out of the shop and u still get ur money and i think the game will become interesting again.

[rogue]

Wally, on 16 January 2010 - 20:36, said:

read careful, the shop is ok. but the super-charger is the main reason for this problem. just take this item out of the shop and u still get ur money and i think the game will become interesting again.

me as MEDIC agrees with that. the self healer of the medic is good enough

[Ywa]

Wally, on 16 January 2010 - 20:36, said:

read careful, the shop is ok. but the super-charger is the main reason for this problem. just take this item out of the shop and u still get ur money and i think the game will become interesting again.

The original super-charger (from before the shop) was changed and balanced to fit into the shop.

[Wally]

but how we all can see it isn't balanced anymore... before the shop it was mostly engie defense vs medic offense and now nobody goes engie, cause they have no chance vs lots of super-charger. the medic will have still good items to buy without the super-charger.

edit: i even don't complain that me as demo don't got even one item to buy, just delete the super-charger and everything would be fine again.

This post has been edited by Wally: 16 January 2010 - 20:51

[rogue]

Wally, on 16 January 2010 - 20:46, said:

but how we all can see it isn't balanced anymore... before the shop it was mostly engie defense vs medic offense and now nobody goes engie, cause they have no chance vs lots of super-charger. the medic will have still good items to buy without the super-charger.

edit: i even don't complain that me as demo don't got even one item to buy, just delete the super-charger and everything would be fine again.

there are now more guys with the super charge ywa. before the green coins stuff there only where 5/6 guys with that charger that played mostly in the servers. now there are much more

[BlueYoshi97]

Why not just get out the automatic-refill of the charge (I know it's the 3rd time I said it, but I'd like to know what you think).

[rogue]

BlueYoshi97, on 14 January 2010 - 23:13, said:

I mean it's ok to have a faster ubercharge, but not automatic refill. What I see now is, many people just stay at their spawn, havin' a bud, doin' nothin', 'till their charge is full. Some assholes even just refuse to freakin' heal others and just stand there talking (not calling names).

So it would be better if Medics are charged faster by healing others,

then you still got the problem because there are not many medics that stand afk in the respawn. but if a medic is ingame and shooting it will still refill. but this not so fast if you still heal somebody so its still the same. and that dont solve the problem that we are talking about. it will be still the same

This post has been edited by rogue: 17 January 2010 - 20:26

[BlueYoshi97]

rogue, on 16 January 2010 - 21:41, said:

Quote

I mean it's ok to have a faster ubercharge, but not automatic refill. What I see now is, many people just stay at their spawn, havin' a bud, doin' nothin', 'till their charge is full. Some assholes even just refuse to freakin' heal others and just stand there talking (not calling names).

So it would be better if Medics are charged faster by healing others,

then you still got the problem because there are not many medics that stand afk in the respawn. but if a medic is ingame and shooting it will still refill. but this not so fast if you still heal somebody so its still the same. and that dont solve the problem that we are talking about. it will be still the same

Hmm. You're right.

This post has been edited by BlueYoshi97: 16 January 2010 - 22:04

[Lemon!]

So, does it get fixed or not?

[rogue]

Lemon!, on 17 January 2010 - 10:44, said:

So, does it get fixed or not?

We still waiting for that answer. i hope it will be fixed

[Scream]

rogue, on 17 January 2010 - 11:39, said:

Lemon!, on 17 January 2010 - 10:44, said:

So, does it get fixed or not?

We still waiting for that answer. i hope it will be fixed

me 2

[Wally]

i think the best solution would be to take the super-charger out of the shop and give the player who bought it the 6500 greencoins back so they can buy other things. the medic has still two good items to buy and more people gonna play engie again. the fights on the server will become more interesting and fair again!